Legal Reasoning: Multi-Use Technology

Because Carrie and I figured the rest of you were curious to know what happens when two high-powered civil rights attorneys use their finely-tuned analytical powers on important non-legal questions:*

Carrie:       where do children learn to put catsup on their eggs

Amy:         um, by osmosis by hanging around uncle tim?

Amy:         it’s disgusting, but it’s one of those great marital compromises . . .

Carrie:       lol

Amy:         for me it violates a sacred boundary:  between Breakfast Food and Not Breakfast Food

Amy:         now, you can eat Breakfast Food any time of the day

Carrie:       snort

Carrie:       i do put salsa on hashbrowns

Amy:         but you cannot mix Breakfast Food with Not Breakfast Food

Carrie:       so having leftover chinese food for breakfast is fine

Carrie:       just not if you add a bowl of cereal?

Amy:         yes

Amy:         for example, steak and eggs: wrong

Carrie:       i agree

Amy:         and scrambled eggs for dinner, also ok

Amy:         but scrambled eggs on pizza:  no

Carrie:       i agree

Amy:         ketchup is a Not Breakfast Food item

Amy:         putting it on eggs:  wrong

Carrie:       although we sometimes do have leftover donuts as dessert

Amy:         hmmm

Carrie:       but the dinner food is finished

Amy:         right!

Amy:         i think perhaps i need to refine the rule to say:  within any one course

Carrie:       plates cleared etc

Amy:         exactly

Amy:         you would not have, say, donuts covered with enchilada sauce

Carrie:       lol

Carrie:       because sometimes leftover donuts are not stale for dessert, but leaving for breakfast….

Amy:         excellent point!

Amy:         and i have no problem with cold leftovers for breakfast:  pizza; chinese; etc

Carrie:       right

Amy:         i bet people wonder how high-powered civil rights lawyers use their finely-tuned analytical powers on important non-legal questions…

Amy:         IOW, can I blog this?

Carrie:       snort

Carrie:       yes

Carrie:       non-leftover, non breakfast foods not acceptable for breakfast

Carrie:       unless it is a breakfast burrito

Carrie:       which has bacon or sausage

Amy:         wow – the breakfast burrito is right on the line

Amy:         yes you have to police it, though, to be sure it doesn’t have Not Breakfast Foods in it, like taco sauce

Carrie:       if bacon or sausage, it is breakfast

Amy:         yes

Carrie:       or chorizo

Amy:         if taco sauce + eggs:  wrong

Carrie:       hence, mcdonalds breakie burrito, wrong on many levels

Amy:         what does it have?

Carrie:       im not sure, but it comes with taco sauce

Amy:         blech

Amy:         wrong

Carrie:       plus from mcdonalds, wrong

Amy:         indeed

Amy:         but notice that we’ve isolated the actual tortilla itself as something that adeptly spans Breakfast Food and Not Breakfast Food

Amy:         hmmm

Amy:         further research may be required.

Carrie:       i think many bread items can be multipurpose

Carrie:       e.g. must be because I don’t go to the bread store often enough

Amy:         that’s true

Amy:         and rice porridge for breakie

Carrie:       true

Amy:         another starch that crosses boundaries

Carrie:       but eggs with rice, wrong

Amy:         agreed

* Lightly edited for order because, as I’m sure it will shock you to learn, Carrie and I constantly text over each other.

7 thoughts on “Legal Reasoning: Multi-Use Technology

  1. Tim

    Ketchup is so underappreciated.

    For instance, did you know that there are actual theories as to the etymology of the word “ketchup”? Yep, according to wiki, there’s the Chinese theory, the Malay theory and the European-Arabic theory.

    More amazing is that somebody somewhere is getting paid to think about the etymology of the word “ketchup”. My college adviser never mentioned that as a career option!


  2. Susan Henderson

    LOVE the breakfast food – not breakfast food discussion. I can see that it would be a fascinating book that traced the beginnings of ketchup on scrambled eggs. Who was the first, and how did such a questionably tasteful tradition spread? Admittedly, I grew up with family members who put ketchup on scrambled eggs. Then, one day when my kids were at the table, one in a high chair, I found myself grabbing the ketchup bottle–I remember the day clearly: I had a rare moment of maternal clarity and questioned what I was doing–why was I continuing such an odd (and really, disgusting) eating habit. So, no ketchup for breakfast in our house.

    Sadly, via sleepovers (I suspect), someone else pushed the nasty ketchup habit and our younger son embraced the addictive taste of sugared tomato sauce on eggs (and just about everything else). He took Regan-era Dept of Ag regulations that ketchup is a vegetable to heart, and that was the way he consumed his daily vegetable requirement.

    But mixing rice with eggs, not breakfast? A billion or so people in Asia/Pacific region may disagree.

    Ketchup, rice, eggs, tortillas, it’s all cultural.


  3. Amy Robertson Post author

    @ Tim – I’m glad your college adviser never mentioned that, because you never would have gone to law school & we never would have met. (All together now: awwwwwwwww!) Ahem. You’re still wrong about ketchup & eggs….

    @ Susan – So glad you fought the good fight against this abomination. And I concede that my analysis is very culture specific. I loved rice porridge with thousand-year eggs while living in Taiwan, but then I’m not at all sure *what* food category those eggs were in!


  4. rodneynorth

    I shouldn’t have to say this on this blog but its _always_ wrong to discriminate – even over tortillas and donuts.
    So, in summary, Tim (& I, & anyone who’s ever enjoyed a good plate of huevos rancheros) are right, and Amy & Carrie are wrong – very very sadly wrong.
    And – my own ketchup theory goes like this:
    People have long put ketchup on french fries. Then later started putting it on other potato dishes (like roasted potatoes). Later still, at b-fast they put it on their homefries or hashbrowns. Sooner or later it got onto the eggs and ‘stuck’ so to speak.


  5. Susan Henderson

    Good theory, Rodney.

    Starting the day off with an analysis of ketchup is stimulating! And it stimulates memories — does everyone have memories connected to ketchup? We were a Del Monte ketchup family — I think Heinz, at least until the last few decades, was more of an east coast brand (though, after marrying a Pittsburgh-raised guy, we’re only allowed Heinz, which I concede, if you’re going to use ketchup, is far better than Del Monte.)

    As a kid growing up in the Bay Area we’d drive by the Hunts and Del Monte canneries and their ketchup-cooking smells. In school at UC Davis, I was able to relive the olfactory sensations thanks to the Hunts cannery. I don’t think any of them are still open.



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